"THE POSTDOC WORLD"

"PostDocs!!!" are young scientists with a PhD from any of the following fields, such as science, maths, commerce, arts & other disciplines?. Ever since the very first few postDocs were recruited (hired) at Johns Hopkins University in 1876, postdoctoral positions became integral part of research labs as well as an important step for career advancement for PhD degree holders in Science, especially Biological. PostDoc job was not at all necessary then but is an absolute necessity now

August 30, 2006

PostDocs-in India??

To my knowledge, there is no PostDoc culture or PostDoc positions in Indian Universities, if at all, it might be rare in few places. So, I was surprised pleasantly to see an article about postdocs in India, the following article discuss issues about postdocs in India. Normally, graduates after recieving their PhD move out of India to west or europe and other places to do their postdoctoral fellowship. There are not much postdoc positions and it is not common few years ago, this article is probably one of the very few I found that talk about retaining the graduates in India and create postdoc position for them in India. Not a bad idea at all, but will it work?. Who will fund them and where is the money?.

Will the graduates stay in India to do a postdoc in India is another question.

March 20, 2006 Volume 84, Number 12 pp. 16-17

Keeping Postdocs At Home In India

A vibrant postdoc culture could invigorate India's research climate, but recruiting remains difficult

Amanda Yarnell

Photo by Amanda Yarnell

For India's fresh Ph.D. graduates, the lure of a postdoctoral position abroad remains irresistible. "If there were a chance to get a good position in India without an international postdoc, I would have done it," explains Govindaraju Thimmaiah, who completed his Ph.D. in chemistry at the National Chemical Laboratory in Pune and is currently working as a postdoc at the University of Wisconsin, Madison. "But I felt I had no choice."
http://pubs.acs.org/cen/coverstory/84/8412India3.html

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University of Connecticut PostDoc Union is a Model!

"The University of Connecticut postdoc union is obviously a model and an inspiration for us." --Matthew O'Connor

Taken for Granted: The Fat Lady Sings Beryl Lieff Benderly

In 2006, union organizers tried and failed to unionize the nearly 6000 postdocs in the vast University of California (UC) system. The acrimonious and complicated attempt, which pitted postdoc against postdoc, ended when the organizers, citing a bureaucratic snafu, withdrew their application for recognition but vowed to continue their efforts. After a renewed organizing drive, the union seems on the verge of the decisive victory it promised 2 years ago.

PostDocs in India

How often you hear about PostDocs in general, and how often you hear news about PostDocs in India or China?. Which brings a question?, are there PostDoc jobs in India and China?. PostDocs in these countries is relatively a new development, remember the first time PostDoc was introduced in USA during 1870's, it was such a luxury, it was used to gain some special expertise to expand once background and it was not necessary to have a PostDoc in order to get a Job in Academia or in other arena's?. This is not the case today, it became so important to have PostDoc experience to get a decent job, and may be more than a couple of PostDoctoral position and even after such a prolonged procrastination in Academia, there are huge number of PostDocs life is a treacherous one?.... If this is the case in USA, just imagine in India and China?. PhD holders from India and China used to migrate in huge numbers to US, the conditions of PostDocs got gradually worsened in terms of salary, benefits, child care and future career opportunities, it became like a Slavery in Academia?.

PostDoc Salary is the most debated issue of all of a postdoc's life. So much happened in the past 10 years to PostDoc activities in US. The most profound activity was the postdoc unionization of the Uconn Health Center, followed by the unionization by the largest Postdoc campus in US or perhaps in the world the University of California campuses.

No one knows how terrible could be the postdoc conditions in developing poor nations like India and China, but there is certainly no information about many European, African, Asian and South American nations. Most of the postdoc data available thus far are from US, Canada, UK and the rest of the world's postdoc data is simply redundant?.

Two of the most important countries to watch for postdocs concern or PostDoc plights are India and China, these two nations alone bulk produce two- thirds of the PostDoc pool of this world, while most of them used to move out to either west, Europe or Australia, the trend is changing, more Indians look for the green pastures right there in India, I believe the same applies to Chinese youngsters.

But, is the Indian govt or higher education bodies do their jobs to keep postdocs career equitable and respectable?.

The answer is no, there is not even a body to monitor the welfare of postdocs, at least in US, there is NIH standard and there is the National Science Foundation and various other bodies that influence policy making for postdocs. On top of All the above the new found awareness of PostDocs in US catapulted by UCONN PostDocs after they Unionized? Their unionization is greatly helping a sea change in postdocs plight. Hope the postdocs in India and China watch and learn some lessons and start tightening the policy making to benefit the postdocs....!

So, what is happening to PostDocs in India, I could not find much news, but the Nature forum has a little bit of discussion going on......

This is a public forum

Postdoc Salary in India

Saturday, 21 February 2009 18:36 UTC

Hello All
I am Arun, pursuing postdoc in India. I am personally not satisfied with the postdoc stipend offered in India and I believe that the handful of students doing postdoc in India might concur with my view.

The low salaries offered to Postdocs in India is one of the major factor which is impelling Indian students to either pursue postdoc abroad or to join private R&D establishments. This is slowly devolving the scientific future of India.

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The Plight of Japan's PostDocs?

The Fate of Japan's Postdocs and their obscure future?

Japan's postdocs open to alternative work

Toshiyuki Misu¹ & Akira Horoiwa¹

The government and universities must highlight non-academic careers and nurture a diverse skill set, say Toshiyuki Misu and Akira Horoiwa.

Postdocs in Japan have had a tough time finding permanent positions, either in academia or in the private sector. In a 2005 survey by the National Institute of Science and Technology Policy (NISTEP) to identify postdocs' career intentions, we investigated people's awareness of and desire for non-traditional science jobs (NISTEP Report 161). We asked about 10% of the postdocs in Japan to participate, 66% of whom responded.

PostDocs in Canada Unionize, win Union Battle?

Western’s Postdocs Win Union Battle
Postdoctoral associates at the University of Western Ontario will soon be bargaining a collective agreement as the latest in a growing number of postdocs that are unionizing at universities across North America.Western’s administration opposed the union move, arguing that postdocs at the London campus were independent contractors who didn’t meet the legal definition of employees. The issue went before the Ontario Labour Relations Board that ruled in favour of the more than 200 workers, certifying the Public Service Alliance of Canada as their bargaining agent on Sept. 30.

Rutgers PostDocs are on their way to Unionize successefully, FAQ!

Frequently Asked Questions

Why should I get involved with a postdoc union when I don’t plan on being around in a year?

If not you, then who? The postdocs who are currently employed at Rutgers have a vote over whether they and future generations of postdocs get to have a meaningful voice in determining their pay and working conditions. Also, any improvements we can make here can serve to raise standards for postdocs at other institutions across the country.

PostDocs Union: New Minimum Ssalary: $37, 740!!

SALARY AND STIPEND LEVELS

UCSF Graduate Division

Current University of California Office of the President, UCSF Graduate Division, and UCSF Graduate Council policies require that postdoctoral scholars receive a minimum compensation equal to $37,400 (effective October 1, 2009). This salary level was established by the UC Office of the President and was consistent with the NIH salary scale at time of announcement. [IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE AGREEMENT REACHED WITH PRO/UAW, THE NEW MINIMUM SALARY FOR POSTDOCS WILL BE $37,740 AS OF 9/1/10. SEE THE UCOP WEBSITE FOR FURTHER INFORMATION. PLEASE CONTACT THE UCSF POSTDOC OFFICE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. (jeannine.cuevas@ucsf.edu or christine.desjarlais@ucsf.edu; ph 514-4852)]

UCLA PostDoc Union Negotiations with University?

Subject: Update on Postdoctoral Scholar Negotiations
UCLA Graduate Division

Dear Deans, Directors, Chairs, and Faculty:

As of November 3, 2008, the University of California recognized the International Union, United Automobile, Aerospace and Agricultural Implement Workers of America (UAW) as the exclusive representative for addressing wages, hours, and other terms and conditions of employment for the following Postdoctoral Scholar title codes:
• Postdoctoral Scholar – Employee (Title Code 3252)
• Postdoctoral Scholar – Fellow (Title Code 3253)
• Postdoctoral Scholar – Paid Direct (Title Code 3254)
• Postgraduate Researcher – FY (Title Code 3240)
• Postgraduate Researcher – AY State Funds (Title Code 3243)
• Postgraduate Researcher – AY Extramural Funds (Title Code 3245
• Visiting _________ - Postdoc (Title Code 3370)

The University and the UAW have commenced negotiations on an initial collective bargaining agreement for the postdoctoral scholars unit. Below is a short summary of negotiations currently in progress.

UPDATE ABOUT POSTDOCTORAL SCHOLAR NEGOTIATIONS – APRIL 3, 2009
SUMMARY INFORMATION

UC PostDoc Union Proposal, now Public Document, Read it at the Link?

Union update- Laura Bartley, UCD representative to the bargaining team

The union has been working to put together proposal to bring to the University. There was an election for the initial proposal ratification that passed in December. The union and the University have now exchanged proposals which are now public documents:

(http://atyourservice.ucop.edu/employees/policies_employee_labor_relations/ne

ws_events/0901-heera_notice_px.html).

There will be opportunity for public comment on these proposals (on both sides) Jan 20th at the UC administration building in Oakland, and also Feb 3rd. Laura encouraged PD to attend and comment. The first bargaining meeting between the union and the University will be held Feb 5th and 6th. The union will be conducting bargaining surveys over the next couple of months to get PD input, however PD must sign a card to give input. They are also conducting campus working conditions surveys to collect information on good and bad practices. The union will also be seeking authorization to go on strike if necessary during the bargaining process. This will be done through an election, no date has been set. PD who would like more information or have questions can contact Laura. Chair’s note: Laura confirmed that signing a card to give input does NOT enroll a person

UC System & the Number of PostDocs?

How many PostDocs work at the UC system, this is one of the largest PostDoc group in US and probably in the world, what happens here can be a great event!. When things said and done on the PostDoc unionization, they will join the only Unionized PostDocs, the Uconn Health center Postdocs. Here is the latest numbers from the UC postdoc society website?

Postdocs in Numbers

UC Berkeley	1150
UC Davis	800
UC Irvine	344
UC Los Angeles	1110
UC Merced	20
UC Riverside	200
UC Santa Barbara	300
UC Santa Cruz	148
UC San Diego	907
UC San Francisco	1100
Total	6059

The above numbers are approximate and were correct to within 10 in
March 2008.

Serial PostDoc by Jon Y

Serial postdoc

Jon Yearsley Jon Yearsley is a senior postdoc in evolutionary genetics at the University of Lausanne in Switzerland.

It's a bad habit to get into. Postdoc positions are liberally scattered over the past 10 years of my CV, and it's got to stop. Well, something has to change, because my funding runs out in 12 months. So here's the deal: I find a permanent position by the end of the year or I move out of academia... Gulp.

It's hard to believe that it's been 10 years since I finished my PhD in cosmology. It's been 10 years since I made a galactic research leap and followed my growing interest in biology. And I've conducted 10 years of research in mathematical ecology and evolutionary biology, which has taken me to four countries and facilitated collaborations with a diverse array of biologists. At the start it was hell. But the collaborations gave me a research foothold. Now, looking back on seabirds, cows, sheep, frogs, DNA and equations, the range of problems and experiences has been a joy. Theoretical ecology brings a lot of job diversity.

So here I am, a well-travelled senior postdoc at the University of Lausanne. Lectureship applications have started, job searching is well under way, as is considering where my partner and I could live. Have I been a postdoc too long? Have I collaborated too much? And what if this career doesn't work? In the year to come I'll have to explore the possibilities and contact friends who have made the move out of academia. Kick the postdoc habit.

Interesting Little Piece on Diversity &

From Nature.com, Postdoc Journal

I'm an alien

Jon Yearsley is a senior postdoc in evolutionary genetics at the University of Lausanne in Switzerland.

Finding refuge in my science.

"Naturalisations en masse, STOP," is one of the more startling political posters that I pass as I cycle into work. The poster shows that the rights of foreigners are once more up for debate. This reminds me that I, as a Brit, am an alien in this European society.

When it comes to my research, the environment is as familiar as a decent pint of English ale and BBC Radio 4. The culture of science is truly international, and interesting research is exciting in any language. At the last count, my department was home to 18 nationalities, making it almost as diverse as the flowers in a Swiss alpine meadow. And rather than this turning into a Tower of Babel, science is done, null hypotheses are refuted, papers are published and impact factors are recorded.

My research gives a welcome dose of the familiar in what can sometimes be an unfamiliar culture. I wasn't brought up with alpine cows, wrapping my lips around french vowels or trying the odd yodel. The unfamiliar is fun, but I'm glad that my habitual pursuit, science, is an important one. Arguably, scientific method crosses national boundaries. I like to think that even a bug-eyed alien postdoc from a distant planet would find some common currency with earthling academics.

Academic Productivity, a Blog about Academia???

Academics salaries lower than automobile industry worker salary?

Though, a comparision between an academician and a autoworker is not the right choice to do a salary or work related benefits, it certainly brings an issue of importance. What exactly academic people get as a benefits is a daunting task?. Read further about the disparity of salary for academicians and the following thoughtful comments by readers of the blog.

From Mark J. Perry’s blog, I just learned that the average UAW worker with a high school degree earns 57.6% more compensation than the average university professor with a Ph.D. Considering that there are plenty of academic positions that do not enjoy the average salary mentioned in the blog post, this is something to worry about. Average Postdoc salaries according to the NSF are nowhere closer to this figure, and you have to add the uncertainty of these positions (they are always short-term) and mobility demands (expect to move to a different university sooner or later). And of course, academic work longer hours and suffer a lot more psychological stress than car factory workers.

UC HEALTH

UC postdocs ratify contract

August 12, 2010. Tags: Administration

uch_ucop_duckett The United Auto Workers (UAW) and the University of California jointly announced today that UC postdoctoral scholars voted to ratify their first union contract.

The union announced that postdocs approved the contract by an overwhelming vote of 2,588 to 121, or 96 percent in favor, in balloting that concluded Aug. 11. The postdocs’ union, Postdoctoral Researchers Organize/UAW, and UC reached a tentative agreement on July 31.

“We are very proud of this contract,” said Xiaoqing Cao, a cancer researcher from UCLA who served on the PRO/UAW bargaining committee. “Not only will postdoc compensation at UC be among the best in the U.S., but UC postdocs will also have unprecedented rights and protections while carrying out the important work that makes UC the top academic research institution in the world.”

“Postdoctoral scholars are vitally important to the University of California and to our research enterprise, and we are very pleased that they have ratified the agreement,” said Dwaine Duckett, vice president for UC systemwide human resources. “We look forward to a swift implementation of the contract and our postdoctoral scholars continuing to work with our faculty and researchers on the great scientific and technological challenges facing our nation.”

The agreement includes a balanced compensation structure that will include both experience-based and general annual increases based on the National Institutes of Health (NIH) pay scale. Other highlights of the agreement include new provisions for time off, stronger mechanisms for postdocs to enforce health and safety standards, “just cause” protections for discipline or dismissal and improved access to professional mentoring

Some PostDocs comments & my reply..!

5,000 Postdocs Choose UAW
cross-posted from howtheuniversityworks.com

To Both Dr.Masoi and the anonymous Midnight Rambler,

I wish you go through the plights of postdocs carefully before you tarnish such effort as the postdoc unionization as done by the organizing committee at the UC. Oki and other postdocs are doing this to help the postdocs get better benefits and basic dignity in the academy instead of being treated as a slaves.

Did you ever read what happened at the Uconn Health Center, Farmington, CT. The very first union ever for Postdocs, this is the best Postdoc place in the world where postdocs are paid the best salary and benefits, besides highly respected by colleagues, faculties and the administrators.

Ignorant postdocs has to live and lead like slaves, I find your message full of ignorance and ill informed. Why don’t you make some effort to understand the fundamental principles of a union, before you lament.

Muni
http://postdocunion.blogspot.com

— drmuni · Aug 7, 06:13 PM · #

PRO/UAW Site

http://www.prouaw.org/home/home.php
Here is the PostDoc Wheel of PRO/UAW, this is like the Wheel of Dhamma of Lord Buddha's that is a symbol of justice and liberation. The latest news from PRO/UAW is very promising to the 5000 or more postdocs in different campuses of University of California System.
PRO/UAW
The Union for Postdoctoral Researchers at the University of California
PRO/UAW is the Union for over 5,000 Postdoctoral Researchers at the University of California. By signing up a majority of Postdocs, we can exercise our legal rights to bargain with UC. Postdoc representatives we choose will survey us to determine priorities and will then negotiate a contract with UC. We can negotiate for improvements in wages, hours, benefits, and terms and conditions of employment. Postdocs will then have an opportunity to democractically approve the agreement that UC and our bargaining team reach, before it becomes a binding contract.

What PostDocs Favor?

Postdocs favor top biomedical research institutes
Several of the world's top biomedical research institutes--including a couple run by biopharma giants--have made this year's list of the best places for postdocs to work. The annual ranking by The Scientist for the U.S. includes the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center (4); U.T.'s M.D. Anderson Cancer Center (5); Genentech (6); the Fox Chase Cancer Center (7) and the Novartis Institute for Biomedical Research (15). Among the top international institutions ranked, the University of Cambridge in the UK jumped from 9th to first place, largely because of their focus on professional training.
The survey found that institutions which consistently rank at the top of the heap are noted for their ability to listen to postdocs' concerns "about uncertain career opportunities, work/life balance, and the need for first-rate professional development."

Today's PostDoc & their Plight?

A man of his stature with the title “the NIH director”, supposed to be the highest and most respectable government authority and policy maker on issues in science/medicine writes “we should not eat our seed corn but protect it”?.

his writings underlies the fact that even this high and mighty NIH director knows the problem of the young scientists of today?, especially the postdoctoral fellows. But yet, neither he nor the scientific committee's at the NIH has taken necessary measures to help improve the current NIH funding system. This area is grossly/largely ignored or deliberately let loose without much restructuring.

The whole academia or higher education system in USA needs a careful reorganization, otherwise what you see will continue, a single faculty of 65 or 70 years old will have all the funding available and sit on it for years until his/her demented brain kills all the funding with as many as 32 grants (MOST OUTRAGEOUS DISPARITY) and

our most valuable and efficient young scientists will be struggling to meet the ends between the academia, lab and their family commitments.

What our current academic policies and atmosphere does to our young scientists is to chase the potential scientists out of labs and academia. Why blame these youngsters if they seek green Pasteur elsewhere like a “biotech job or an industry job”, they have no choice than to look elsewhere for their future.

STEM EDUCATION

Plight of the Postdoc

Is Modern American Science Strangling Its Young Talents In the Cradle?

In some cases, one can even single out

an apparent hoarding of research funds.

In 2007, two hundred scientists received six or more NIH grants, and a single investigator won 32 grants, while many others got close to ten.

An NIH advisory panel has recommended that grant awardees devote at least 20 percent of their time to each, but these numbers show a clear disconnect between intentions and reality. These multiple awards are going to established investigators—who are certainly not spending one fifth of their time per study—while younger scientists would probably devote more energies to the work. Thus, laboratories around the country are fostering a “survival of the oldest” dynamic.

PostDoc Job Wanted!?

If you have a postdoc position or if you know someone will be interested in this guy, help him.

postdoc@yahoogroups.com
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Hello everyone,
I am Dr.Prahlad Rao, K, completed my MTech & PhD in Biomedical Engg from IIT Madras, India. I have worked as Research Fellow for one year in NUS Singapore. My research areas are bio optics, imaging and biomedical instrumentation. I am searching for a postdoc position. So,if anyone have info, please help me!
Regards,
-Dr.Prahlad Rao, K
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Issues & Perspectives

Taken for Granted: Joe the Plumber and the Postdocs

That leaves grad students and postdocs not as promising aspirants to a prestigious trade but rather as employees of large organizations, namely, the research universities that pay their wages out of PI grants.

As such, these young scientists are exactly the sort of worker for whom the second type of labor union, the so-called industrial union, was devised.

This type serves the interests not of accomplished artisans selling their skills in competitive markets but rather of workers drawing their pay from a given large company or organization. Rather than defending the prerogatives of a particular craft against the threat of interlopers, industrial unions strive to recruit all the workers at a particular workplace and defend them against the power of their employer.

The unmistakable transformation of aspiring scientists from apprentices to hired hands has finally persuaded at least some postdocs to move explicitly from the now-outdated trade union model of academe, with a "union card"

that no longer opens the way to a desired career, toward an industrial union model designed for large numbers of employees who need to negotiate job conditions with their single, even larger, employer. The old "union card" no longer provides Joe and Joan the Ph.D. scientist decent employment in academe. Perhaps their new union cards can.

http://sciencecareers.sciencemag.org/career_magazine/previous_issues/articles/2008_11_07/caredit.a0800161

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Looking for Tenure Track...Damn it...: Get Another Life?

Tuesday, March 11, 2008

Get Another Life

By David D. Perlmutter

The academic life, at least according to popular culture, is one of leisure and banter interspersed with a few hours of off-the-cuff teaching. Remember the character named Gary on the late-1980's television show thirtysomething? He was an assistant professor of English literature with a large, beautiful office. Research, teaching, and service were invisible components of a lifestyle suffused with love-making and bicycling. (Reality did intrude a bit when he was denied tenure.)

******************** READ FURTHER

http://chronicle.com/jobs/news/2008/03/2008031101c/careers.html

The tenure track may feel like the medieval torture of having each limb pulled in a different direction by whipped horses. In response you need to plan, to organize, to recognize your strengths and limits, and to negotiate honestly how you allocate your time.

From UCLA News Room: Stagnant funding of NIH is shackling young research scientists

Stagnant funding of NIH is shackling young research scientists
Report says lack of support threatens medical advances, nation's health
By
Roxanne Moster
3/11/2008 6:30:00 AM
Flat funding of the National Institutes of Health over the last five years is deterring promising young investigators at UCLA and other major research institutions across the country and threatening the future of Americans' health, according to a new report.

Released today in Washington, D.C., the report by UCLA and a group of five other academic research institutions describes the toll that cumulative stagnant NIH funding is taking on the American medical research enterprise and warns of the consequences of a continued lack of action. If the NIH does not get consistent and robust support in the future, the report concludes, the nation could lose a generation of young investigators to other careers and other countries. With them, a generation of promising research findings that could cure diseases for millions of Americans might be lost.

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